Posts tagged ‘Habeas Corpus’

Trump Has Found A More Constitution-Free Zone Than Guantanamo

For two decades, the US military base at Guantanamo Bay has been a preferred spot to indefinitely detain individuals the US government does not like, mostly accused terrorists.  In most cases these are folks the government would like to imprison for life but whom they don't want to have tried in the US, either because they don't really want to try to prove their accusations or due to public backlash against repatriating some admittedly bad folks.  Whatever the reasons, the net effect is a Constitution-free zone where things we take for granted like due process and habeas corpus don't obtain.

President Obama and his supporters disliked the situation enough to try to reduce the Gitmo population, but he was not willing to bear the political cost of "soft-on-terror" accusations that inevitably come from certain quarters whenever it is suggested someone incarcerated for over 10 years should have access to due process and a fair trial.  Trump on the other hand seems to love the Constitution-free zone, notwithstanding the hypocrisy of this following years of criticism of the Department of Justice for incarcerating certain January 6 rioters without trial.  At the beginning of his term he publicly told the folks down in Gitmo to get ready for 50,000 new inmates, seeing it as a place he could expatriate immigrants (initially presumed to be the illegal ones but since then immigrants with valid green cards and student visas but engaging in un-loved speech).

But apparently he has found an even better place -- the CECOT prison in El Salvador.  We are seeing now that this is one step even beyond Gitmo -- while judges seem to have only limited reach into Gitmo, they do have some.  But they have no reach into El Salvador.

Trump is telling the Salvadoran President that once he is done with illegal immigrants, he is going to start sending "homegrown" criminals.  Via Reason:

President Donald Trump met with Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele in the Oval Office yesterday and said his innermost thoughts out loud: "Homegrowns are next. The homegrowns. You gotta build about five more places [like the CECOT prison]. It's not big enough."

"Yeah, we've got space," Bukele responded. Administration officials chuckled in the background. "I'm talking about violent people," Trump had said a few minutes earlier. "I'm talking about really bad people."

"We always have to obey the laws, but we also have homegrown criminals that push people into subways, that hit elderly ladies on the back of the head with a baseball bat when they're not looking, that are absolute monsters," said Trump.

Attorney General Pam Bondi is reportedly considering legal mechanisms by which Trump could send American citizens to El Salvador's infamous Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo.

I struggle to find any historical precedent for this craziness.  Bottany Bay and Georgia come to mind, but those were still under the administrative control of the government that was shipping out criminals.

One of the appeals of Trump has been that he has no equity in the system, and thus is willing to challenge the entrenched mess much of government has become.  And if Trump had stuck with DOGE and tweaking government bureaucrats, I would have been entertained.  But the downside of having no equity in the system (combined I think with his age) is that rules and precedents are as meaningful to him as the rules of war are to a guerilla fighter.  I don't think he give a sh*t about setting bad precedents and this is an absolutely awful precedent.

I know there are many Trump supporters that will disagree with me and cheer him on.  They are frustrated with cities that give violent crime a pass and I am sympathetic.  But perhaps this is one way to explain the problem to them:  I believe that President Biden's justice department went overboard on prosecution, over-sentencing, and incarceration of January 6 rioters/protesters.  But if President Biden had decided to follow this Salvadoran incarceration idea himself, then likely there would be hundreds, maybe thousands of Trump supporters sitting in a Salvadoran prison and there would be zero Republicans could do about it now.  Trump loves Salvadoran incarceration because no pardon and no judge can touch them, but the same would be true if his January 6 supporters had been sent down there too.  Trump's pardons would all have been moot, because pardoned or not it would be as hard to get them back out of CECOT as it is to get innocent US citizens out of Putin's political-hostage prisons.  One of the reasons we are extremely careful with the death penalty (and why I think it should be banned all together) is that there is no appeal or reversal possible once a person is executed.  We are facing the same situation with shipments to El Salvador, and unfortunately Trump considers that a feature not a bug.

Follow-up on Habeas Corpus and Gitmo

I got a lot of email this weekend telling me why I was short-sighted in supporting the Supreme Court's decision on habeas corpus rights for detainees.   First, I will observe that I have great readers, because all of the email was respectful.  Second, I will say that I am open to being convinced that I am wrong here, but I have not been so convinced yet. 

I got a lot of email about past precedents and settled law on this.  What I don't seem to be communicating well is that I understand and agree with past precedent in the context of other conflicts, but that the concept of "combatant" as currently used by the GWB administration is so different than in the past as to defy precedent.  The folks sitting in Gitmo are not uniformed Wermacht officers captured in the Falais Gap.  They are combatants generally not because they were caught firing on our troops but because the Administration says they are combatants.  New situations often require new law, and as I said before, when in doubt, I will always side for protection of individual rights against the government.

I'm not going to get into an anecdotal battle over the nature of individual Gitmo detainees.  I can easily start rattling off folks who were detained for extended periods for no good reason, and I am sure one can rattle off names of hard core bad guys who none of us would be happy to have walking the streets.  The place where reasonable people disagree is what to do with this mixed bag.  Gitmo supporters argue that it is better to lock up a few good guys to make sure the really bad guys are off the street.  I would argue in turn that this is exactly NOT how our legal system works.  For good reasons, our system has always been tilted such that the greater harm is locking up the innocent rather than releasing the guilty.

It may be a faulty analogy, but I considered the other day what would have happened had the US government taken the same position with active communist part members in the 1950's.  Would it really have been that hard to have applied the same logic that has a number of Gitmo detainees locked away for years to "communist sympathizers?"

I think this Administration, time and time again, has exhibited a strong streak of laziness when it comes to following process.  It doesn't like bothering to go through channels to get warrants, even when those warrants are usually forthcoming.  And it doesn't want to bother facing a judge over why detainees are in captivity, something that every local DA and police officer have to deal with every day.

Update: More, from Cato and George Will, here.  There are certain people who I find it to be a sort of intellectual confirmation or confidence builder to find them on the other side of an issue from me.  John McCain is quickly falling into to this camp for me, at least vis a vis individual rights questions.

Reviewing Detentions

Back when there was all that controversy about flushing Korans at Gitmo, my general reaction was that the charges of outright torture were overblown.  In fact, today I think all this focus on torture-lite was counter-productive, diverting attention from the core question of "no matter how well they are treated, do we have a right to indefinitely detain them at all?" 

The main theme in my posts both on detentions as well as NSA wiretaps has been that our current problems with terrorism do not justify the relaxation or overriding of our core principles of separation of powers.   If we are are going to detain people, it should be following rules laid out by Congress and with clear points of review or appeal to the judiciary.  The exact rules for Habeas Corpus may be different for people captured in Afghanistan than in Omaha, but they can't be thrown out all-together by administration fiatThe rights protected by our Constitution and its amendments are our rights as humans, not just as Americans.  Our rights not to be locked up indefinitely or not to be subject to invasive searches without a warrant predate government - they are protected by the government, not provided by the government.  As such, even foreigners, who presumably are human, possess these rights too.

It turns out that the Gitmo detentions, years after they began, are starting to get the third party scrutiny that you and I expect to get after 48 hours of detention.

If accurate, this National Journal cover story is scandalous.  Stuart Taylor's Journal column sums up the major points:

  • A high percentage, perhaps the majority, of
    the 500-odd men now held at Guantanamo were not captured on any
    battlefield, let alone on "the battlefield in Afghanistan" (as Bush asserted) while "trying to kill American forces" (as [press secretary Scott] McClellan claimed).

  • Fewer than 20 percent of the Guantanamo detainees, the best available evidence suggests, have ever been Qaeda members.
  • Many scores, and perhaps hundreds, of the detainees
    were not even Taliban foot soldiers, let alone Qaeda terrorists. They
    were innocent, wrongly seized noncombatants with no intention of
    joining the Qaeda campaign to murder Americans.

  • The majority were not captured by U.S. forces but
    rather handed over by reward-seeking Pakistanis and Afghan warlords and
    by villagers of highly doubtful reliability.

Maybe an actual government body that does not report to the President, such as the judiciary, can finally enter the fray and habeas some of their corpuses. 

And by the way, I am soooo fed up with the counter-argument, "coyote, you are more interested in the rights of terrorists than security".  I answered this here, but in the case of detentions it is perfectly clear to me that the goal of detaining demonstrably dangerous folks does not require avoidance of judicial review.  I am sure this administration like any other does not like the courts or Congress looking over its shoulder, but they have to get over it.  The Administration has decided that the other branches of government can't be trusted, and the theme of many of their recent actions has been to fight against any separation of powers restrictions on the administration.

Related thoughts:  I see decent support in polls for these detentions and wiretaps.  My sense is that people who trust Bush are OK with him taking on these powers, and people who don't trust him are horrified.  The history of the Patriot Act is illustrative of this.  Most of the Patriot Act was originally proposed by Bill Clinton in response to Oklahoma City and the first bombing of the WTC.  At that time, Republicans opposed it, eventually defeating it in the Senate with the opposition led by... John Ashcroft.  Yes, I know the argument the world changed on September 11, but I think an even more important explanation of this turnaround for Republicans is that they did not trust Clinton, so didn't give him the power, but do trust Bush.  Of course the short-sightedness of this approach is stunning, since we know no party stays in power forever.  To Republicans, if you are comfortable with Bush being able to detain people of his choice without review and to wiretap without warrant, then you need to also be comfortable with Hillary Clinton, Howard Dean, or maybe Patty Murray having the same power some day.  Are you?  Really?  Because I am not comfortable giving the power to either party.

Yes, the world may have shifted on its axis on September 11, but not enough for us to throw out separation of powers.

UpdateMore here.